Edward Berge Says: July 28th, 2006 at 8:35 am I don’t see Ken’s work as materialistic and/or just intellectual. He doesn’t reduce the psychic, subtle or causal to the material plane, he just explains that all inner consciousness states and stages have outer manifestations. And those outer “bodies” or containers can be subtle and causal, not just physical.As to just being intellectual, Ken goes into great detail about the higher states and stages of consciousness and the necessity for one to take up such practices to experience them. Ken himself is a life-long meditation practitioner, as are many if not most or all of the rest of us in this movement. But to talk about those experiences, to put them in an understandable context, requires that we rationally reconstruct them in language and theories and models. Even Aurobindo did this. Ken’s writings and system, just as much as Aurobindo’s, are based on personal spiritual experience. Mushin Says: July 28th, 2006 at 4:14 am Your last link wasn’t there anymore, so now I found it here: WH’s Blog - Tagged with Disingenious Duplicity
I've meditated for around 25 years and feel pretty well convinced that theories and models purportedly based on this sort of consciousness have no more to do with it than other uses of language - less, actually, than some. The experience itself does not come with a metaphysic.
ReplyDeleteFor some the experience may be instant, or if not instant, immediate, a month or two, a year or two. For some it may take decades, or even a century, or several lives.It differs from perso to person,depending on their Karma, their sadhana.Words, unless from a Person of Realization, may not have effect.
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